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PLEASE READ THIS PROFILE BEFORE YOU EVEN PROCEED TO ASK ME FOR A FRIEND REQUEST. AND ALSO, I DO NOT ACCEPT REQUESTS FROM PRIVATE PROFILES UNLESS THEY ARE ACCOMPANIED BY A MESSAGE TELLING ME WHY YOU'D LIKE TO BE A PART OF THIS PAGE. I'M NOT TRYING TO BE A SNOB, IT'S JUST THAT I'M NOT LOOKING TO JUST ACCUMULATE FRIENDS BUT PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY INTERESTED IN SABLE STARR. QUALITY NOT QUANTITY IS THE THING HERE. I CAN HAVE HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS OF "FRIENDS" BUT IF THEY ARE JUST HERE FOR THE HELL OF IT BECAUSE OF SABEL'S NAME AND HAVE NO VALUE WHATSOEVER TO MY OWN AGENDA....THEY ARE NOT WORTH ALLOWING ONTO MY SPACE. AS FOR YOUR OWN AGENDAS, TAKE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.
ALSO, IT WOULD BE NICE TO GET A THANK YOU IF I APPROVE YOU. SHOWS ME THAT YOU'RE TRULY INTERESTED IN THE SITE AND NOT JUST AFTER SOME SORT OF AGENDA. SABLE IS AN ICON - FAMOUS - QUEEN OF THE GROUPIES -- OR SHOULD I SAY THE "TRUE" QUEEN OF THE GROUPIES NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH THOSE WHO CLAIM THAT THEY ARE BECAUSE THEY DECIDED TO GIVE THEMSELVES THAT NAME AS IF THEY WERE GIVEN A FULL CORONATION CEREMONY OR SOMETHING. **YAWN** THEY KNOW WHO THEY ARE. IF I DONT GET ONE, YOU'LL BE DELETED WITHIN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME. UNLESS OF COURSE, I THINK YOU'RE WORTH HAVING ON MY PAGE (WHICH GOES FOR ALOT OF YOU GUYS). I CAN UNDERSTAND NOT HAVE THE TIME TO THANK ME BUT ALOT OF YOU, WITH YOUR OWN AGENDA CAN AND WILL BE DISAPPEARING WITHIN TIME. THANKS.

FOR MANY YEARS SABLE'S NAME WAS SPELLED AND THOUGHT OF AS IT IS IN MY PROFILE (SABLE). THE REASON I HAVE LEFT IT THAT WAY IS (1) I HAVE TROUBLE SOMETIMES REMEMBERING TO SPELL IT CORRECTLY AND MOST IMPORTANTLY (2) IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR FRIENDS AND PEOPLE INTERESTED IN SABEL TO FIND MY PAGE. HER NAME IS IN FACT SPELLED "SABEL".
Real Name: Sabel Hay Shields Born: August 15, 1957 (California, USA)
THIS DATE MAY NOT BE ACCURATE. I'M GOING BY PUBLIC RECORDS.

Sable’s birth date and stories regarding how young she was during her reign as Queen of the Strip are kind of conflicting. If you should find ANY discrepancies in this story at all, PLEASE let me know.
Sable’s conquests included members of Led Zeppelin, T. Rex, Mott the Hoople, Iggy Pop, Ron Asheton, David Bowie and John Christian, lead guitarist of Shady Lady before she met and hooked up with Thunders. Sable’s older sister, Corel, was also on the scene but I don’t think I’d classify her as a groupie. Coral is famous for having a relationship with Iggy Pop. They both grew up in the wealthy suburb called Palos Verdes. By her teens, she had already become the QUEEN OF THE GROUPIES (and yes, I will call her that because she earned it). Although it was a whole new generation of groupies, Sable put the Queen in the groupie scene after the GTOs. Queen of the Groupies/Queen of the Strip, it’s your call – but she was all that and more. She hung out in clubs like Rodney Bingenheimer’s English Disco and the Whiskey. She was friends with Lori Lightning (Lori Maddox), Queenie and also hung out for some time with Karen Umphrey (STAR cover girl, model and NOT a groupie). Since she didn’t live in Hollywood, a friend gave her a call one day and asked her to go to the Whiskey. She went and was intrigued by the girls that she saw. She considered herself ugly then. SILLY GIRL. She had her nose fixed when she was 15. She started out as Iggy’s girl and then Ron’s and back and forth. She was open and that’s what everyone liked about her. Sable was all about fun. She didn’t consider anyone competition like the older groupies did. Every band that came through LA wanted to meet both her and Lori. At 15 (1972), she shared her time back and forth between the hotel where the Stooges used to live and the Hilton where David Bowie stayed when he visited Hollywood.
She was known to be very sexual, funny, and quick-witted and that’s what the guys were attracted to. She would also decide to do things out of nowhere like in the middle of the night decide to put on Hollywood underwear and a garter belt and drive around town. It was around that time that Sable was becoming notorious. When David Bowie came to town, he wanted to meet her. Silverhead was staying at the Hyatt and Bowie was staying at the Hilton so it was again back and forth. When she met up with Bowie, he thought (of course) that she was very cute! Sable and Lori met up with Bowie at the Rainbow that night. Then someone came up to Bowie and threatened him, so they left. They all wound up at David’s room and the rest, well, you know. However, I do think that Lori had him first.
Her parents were very strict about her schooling. Of course, she hated going to school and had a probation officer when she was 15. She then went off to stay with Iggy Pop at Torrenson Drive. I think she was there for about a month. Sable was her usual self and had herself a good time. Until she made a pass at (then) Wayne County and was turned down so she cut herself and threw herself into the pool. She splashed around for a bit until Leee Childers dove in and fished her out. They were only surface scratches and Leee cleaned them up. She was wrapped in a blanket and Coral took her away. Eventually, Sable and Wayne/Jayne became close friends.
In 1973, she met Johnny Thunders, the New York Dolls guitar player. She had already set her sights on him after seeing him in CREEM magazine. From what I have read, he fell in love with her instantly and asked her to marry him on the spot. I believe that Johnny had a genuine love for Sabel and it wasn’t just a sex thing. They were a couple in love. Sabel even gave up the life as a groupie. They were hanging out with Coral and Iggy but things got weird when Johnny started dabbling into drugs. Before they went South on their tour, Johnny sent Sable to New York but her mom was worried about her (since I believe she just ran away). Sable’s mom sent out just about everyone to be on the lookout for her (police, etc.) She was being looked for everywhere. In fact, when Cyrinda Foxe went to meet up with the Dolls in Texas, they thought SHE was Sable and she had to prove to them that she was not.
Back in NY, they lived together in an apartment on West 24th street. Everything went well those first couple of months. But after awhile all the drug use got to him and their relationship looked like it was going to end.
They stayed together for 2 years and became NYC’s most celebrated couples. Their happiness didn’t last long. Sable felt that Johnny was taking away her personality. She liked to have a good time and Johnny wanted her home and that just wasn’t her thing at the time. After all, she was still young. I believe Johnny did love Sable but he had a bad speed habit at the time so he was a bit paranoid. He ripped up all her personal items (diaries, phone numbers, etc.) to make sure she had contact with anyone. Sable eventually cut her wrists. She was found by Sylvain Sylvain who took her to the hospital. It was either a psych ward or home, so she decided to take a trip back home but Johnny plotted to get her back.
I don’t know exactly how the following transpired and it’s probably as close as I’ll every get. I don’t know how she wound up in Atlanta, but it was there that she met Keith Richards. I do not THINK they had a sexual relationship. I know she liked Keith because he made her feel special and I think that after all she went through, she needed that. Sable went back to Johnny again in 74. During one of his touring schedules, Johnny freaked out on meth and refused to go on stage. Sable was called and told to just get there fast to watch over him. She caught up with them somewhere in Canada. He was out of control, but she tried her best to get him to come down, even doing some speed to keep up with him since he wasn’t sleeping. Eventually, in Syracuse, he crashed. He was put on a plane in a wheelchair and when he woke up he beat her up. Sable would claim that was the worst trip of her life. I LOVE JOHNNY but DO YOU BLAME HER?? She explained that they planned to marry and she got pregnant and she had an abortion. When this happened in their relationship, I really don’t know. Sable would later split her time between LA and New York, where she met people like Debbie Harry whom she would become friendly with. She would see Johnny there but they remained friends. He introduced her to his Heartbreaker’s band mate, Richard Hell and she eventually moved in with him. (1975?) When she split with him, she went back home and started a normal life. She was 17. Last I heard she was living in Nevada with her two children, Christian and Donnay and was working at Harrod’s as a 21 dealer. Her relationship with Johnny was immortalized in “Look Away” – one of the songs on Iggy Pop’s “Naughty Little Doggy”.
I have read a lot of the books by other groupies and they can be very nasty when it comes to Sable and the other younger groupies in general. It seems that Sable can't be bought and THATS WHAT I LIKE ABOUT HER. I only think that one woman out there (Pamela who?) out of them all harbors an intense hatred for her and I think that when and if Sable decides to come out with a book, it will kick ass. Pamela Des Barres has been horrible in referring to her looks and that is something that has always bothered me. She especially has claimed to be hated by the younger girls and I’m starting to think that maybe it had something to do with HER attitude. But who knows?? I wasn’t there. Sorry Pamela fans. I just dont "get" Pamela's self-promotion and love of herself...she's no better than anyone else. Listen, I was dancing in my room somewhere. To me, Pamela was just as sexually promiscuous as the others, so really she had no room to talk. To present herself as innocent is absurd. Sable may not have been into sewing and embroidering for her guys but they seemed to like her because they always wanted to see her. And it seems that I remember reading that Pamela headed for the corsets and garters after seeing Lori, Sable and Queenie doing the same. Sable was Sable and that was that. A TRUE ORIGINAL!!! She may have had a bit of an attitude and loved herself a bit too much (if you read her STAR interview with Queenie, you’ll notice it) but I don’t think she had a jealous bone in her body. She may have wanted Bowie and Lori got him first but she did eventually end up in bed with him so she was happy. She may have wanted her way when she wanted something and when she didn’t get it, she might have pulled a hissy-fit or two and yeah, she could have been a bit nasty.....but listen, I’m no groupie but I know it’s got to be a cut-throat biz.
Sable, if you’re out there. You are forever in my heart and I truly love you.

THANKS TO THE END & VIO FOR THIS PIC:
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THE SAME PIC INCLUDING THE BEAUTIFUL KAREN UMPHREY. AGAIN MY THANKS TO THE END & VIO
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PLEASE READ THIS PROFILE BEFORE YOU EVEN PROCEED TO ASK ME FOR A FRIEND REQUEST. AND ALSO, I DO NOT ACCEPT REQUESTS THAT ARE PRIVATE.
I HAVE TO THANK THE NEW YORK DOLLS PAGE FOR THIS PIC.....IT'S JUST SO APPROPRIATE FOR THIS SPACE. I LOVE IT!!!I have watermarked most of my un-generic pictures. That's not going to stop people from taking them or using them and I understand that but that's life. However, it would be nice to ask permission before swiping any of THOSE PARTICULAR pics to put on any other site. I would especially like credit for them also, since I worked long and hard to find these pics. I have credited the photographer of each picture which I have found, so I’m not claiming to “own” them but I’ve done A LOT of research and it has taken me a very long time to get this stuff together.
I am always looking for new pics and stories and of course, I will give FULL credit to anyone who has any of these.

I am DEFINITELY not here as a joke. I take this site pretty seriously. Believe me, I'm not trying to be a snot, BUT this site is for Sable’s truest fans. Only Sable’s loyal fans or anyone associated with her at any time are welcome. I'm not all about the numbers. I just want to make sure that I don’t get people who are just around just to get stuff off my page cause that really sucks.



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.. Anyone who has associated or knows Sable or anyone from back in the day. ANYONE who has any stories to tell about Sable and her friends back in the day, afterwards or now. Anyone to do with STAR, CREEM or ROCK SCENE magazine. Anyone from the Rodney/Whiskey scene….oh geeze….ANYONE AT ALL that has a story to tell. That’s it really. I’m just after one thing before I die and that’s to contact and meet or speak with Miss Sable Starr/Shields. I think I would just about crap myself. This is a 35 year old love for a woman who has been my muse for all these years.

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