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Flipside Fanzine #84, May/June 1993by Shane WilliamsI first read about these guys in either Buzzkill or in The Probe - or I read about them in both, I just don't remember which was first - but both are zines whose opinions I value - and I'd heard a Derelicts song on the underground radio I survived on while locked up - and having read that Zipgun was the remnants of The Derelicts adn all the rave of their singles adn shows I knew I had to see them when they hit LA - well as you might remember from last column I got so lucky that I got to see them play a set just for me real early at Raji's one night - and I went twice more - their final LA show was at JJs the little hole in the wall down in Orange - this was probably their biggest show ever there - three bands - after The Red Aunts and The Humpers everybody was rockin' and the Zipgun set was a fine culmination to our worship of the rock godz - but no sooner did I get out to their van than these turkeys started breaking up right in front of my very eyes - I feel pretty confident they were just blowing off steam at each other - though I thought that was what playing the gigs was supposed to be good for - at any rate this is what you might call an aboritve interview - we only taped for 10 or 15 minutes and a lot of that was wasted on the spat - the next day I asked Neil a bunch of questions but how much of that conversation I'll remember too add in for you depends on how the interview itself jogs my memory - right now I'm gonna list who plays what and what bands they were in previously - but before I proceed I want to say that at one time I would've lumped The Derelicts and Love Battery together as a couple of rockin' Seattle bands - look what can happen - today Love Battery are mersh and on a big tour - meanwhile The Derelicts broke up but the band it's guitarist put together is out there slogging away at club shows playing rock and roll derivative of nobody - or at least not derivative of anything trendy - just classic punk shit. Neil Rogers is on guitar and was also the guitarist for The Derelicts. Robbe Clarke is the singer and he wasn't in a prevous band of note. Mark Wooten is on bass and he was in The Zany Guys out of Phoenix. Dan Cunneen is the drummer and was in Portland's Obituaries. .....Without further ado let's see what got captured on tape.(Sound of Bottle Breaking) Mark: Alright, I'm leaving. Dan: (To Neil) Yeah, you can do a solo interview. Neil: I said just leave me one sip of the tequila. Mark: Big fucking deal - you can buy another bottle. Neil: We're gonna be together in six months, you can just tell. Robbe: Talk to the driver, he's got a good attitude.Shane: Quit raggin' on Neil and lets just do the interview. Bottom line: How long have you been together? How many shows have you done so far this tour? I always ask 2 or 3 at once to give you a varity to choose from haha...Neil: We've played about 7 shows and we've been together about a year and a half.Shane: Down the coast on the way here?Neil: We went over to Arizona, even played Yuma and then San Diego.Shane: So what kind of tour support does Empty give you? They gave you a bunch of your CDs to sell anyways.Neil: Actually they're pretty helpful setting up promotional stuff like radio appearances.Shane: Thats how you got the KXLU spot? So your happy with the label? I'm certainly happy with the music they put out. Are you into The Putters?Robbe: They're sort of amazing. Neil: They're great. Robbe: They're guys that came up from Arizona.Shane: Well your band has a member who came up from Phoenix, right? (Said member being Mark who is way pissed at this point talking about quitting.)Neil: Yeah he's our bass player who is talking about quitting for like the third time. Robbe: I drank it - it's my fault.Shane: Hey - like they say - anger is an energy - so fuck the dumb shit tell me about some of these songs - you've got "Cool in a [sic] Cell" and it seems like I heard some other lyrics referring to getting locked up or being locked up.Robbe: I'll tell you what I did. I snuck into a zoo by jumping over a wall and I found this donkey who was grazing off of hay and I hung him. I slit his gut open for the entrails to fall our and I literally hung him.Shane: Was he alive when you hug him?Robbe: Oh yeah - I put him out of his misery. This was the one they use to give kids rides around the zoo. I rode him when I was like 10 or something and here I am at 25 and they had the same tired donkey without any hooves left at all...Fuck that shit - so I put him out of his misery and that is the only reason I've been in jail - that's "Cool in a [sic] Cell" right there... Robbe: We just want to have fun - and we usually do - believe me Shane - all this fighting aside - by the time we get up to San Jose everything will be cool and we'll end up having a circle jerk. Neil: I think were just gonna drive straight back to Seattle and quit. Robbe: All I know is I've got my Humpers "My Machine" CD and that will get me back to Seattle.Shane: Are you into them now?All: Oh yeah!Shane: So why don't you go ahead and tell me about previous bands you've each been in or any current side projects if any? (right around this time the cops cruise the parking lot and spot our crowd drinking beer - everyone managed to conceal the beer inside and a little bantering with the pigs was sufficient to get rid of em - they mentioned having been parked in a nearby alley where they heard the last band's set).Shane: What's the differance between The Derelicts and Zipgun?Robbe: Class. They were a fun band but we've got soul.Shane: Oh, I thought you were saying you guys got no class.Robbe: Shane Shane Shane - the way you twist things around - they were so white. THEY sounded like they were from Renton, the white trash capital of Seattle. (Neil starts talking shit again about forming a new band with none of the other guys - everyone started giving him shit at once - saying he'd be like Greg Sage where only inexperienced teens would play with him - the implication being that the both of them are too prima-donnaish to get regulars to stick - I'd never tripped on it but I guess there would have to be a reason why The Wipers were hardly ever a real band in personnel.) Neil: I'm really glad you came to our last show.Shane: (ignoring anyone talking about breaking up) So you guys have toured before this?Dan: We played all over the place for a whole month last summer. This was our first time in LA and we played all of the right clubs and nobody came. Robbe: Actually these have been good shows for us - all we want to do is play and have fun.Shane: So slag on some other Seattle bands you don't like - I just saw Coffinbreak and I wasn't too impressed by them - who is worse than them?Neil: I won't put anyone down but I'll tell you about some good ones. There is the Kent 3 who sound like Wire. Robbe: This is obviously what Neil thinks he is gonna call his next band. (anonymous band member - call it the Baby Bottle Breakers) Dan: You want to hear about a bad band - Green Apple Quick Step.Shane: Who else thinks they're as good as Mudhoney but in reality are weak like Pearl Jam.All: Sweetwater! Dan: Le me tell you about some good bands out of Portland: Hazel - they're real good also, Heatmiser, Hitting Birth take themselves a little too serious. Robbe: All anyone needs are The Humpers and The Devil Dogs.Shane: The Devil Dogs, The Humpers, and Zipgun! [This about wrapped it up and the next day's follow up with Neil isn't popping into my brain as far as specifics (it was unrecorded) but since I did get subsequent communication from the label I'd say they did not end up breaking up - and for that I'm very glad - you can write these guys yourself care of the Empty address - and bands - not only is Empty functioning as a label - but I think they've become a booking agency as well - I know Pat Cowgirl said that was the agent they were gonna work with on their Euro tour later this year.] [Discography - wise they've got a one sided single out that is real hard to find - and a split single and a 3 song 7 inch and the one full length Eight Track Player...]
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Member Since: 1/1/2007
Band Website: geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Birdland/7307
Band Members: Neil Rogers: Les paul jr. Dan Cunneen: Drummer Mark Wooten: Bass Robb Clarke: VoxAndy Sheen:bass Ian Dunsmore: bass
Influences: FlipsideA one sided record here. This is a total bring the hammer down on your face punk tune, fucking hard. - ThrasheadWhat the hell? Only 200 made? That's too bad 'cause these guys are greatttttt! (Thanks Tony the Tiger) Members of the Derelicts included for posterity reasons, of course. - CakeSuburban VoiceThese punk rock vets (ex-Derelicts, Zany Guys, Obituaries) get together and make some lovely noise. Loud 'n proud, straight-ahead 4/4 havoic-mongering with lots of sweat'n grit.HypeMy love affair with this band is no secret. Tough as shit punk rock here, the kind of stuff you expect to hear in the bacground at a biker bar in some great episode of Hunter while Dee Dee gets winged in the thigh by some slimy Hog type and his girlfriend is shaking her shit on the pool table. "Together Dumb" is far and away their best work yet, so don't miss this out on this one...cover art by Pooky Newton, natch, and this does have the "Neil Rogers is a pussy" sample, so buy one and play it for your mom. - FlaggertMaximum Rock'N'RollThese former members of the DERELICTS and the OBITUARIES are rocking their asses off. The crisp tempo is fueled by high-octane guitar works. Powerful singing rises this above run-of-the-mill three chord punk rock. Give it a 96. Good to thrash to! (BR)?That snappy sone-sided single could only provide a glimpse at the post-Derelicts mayhem that was in store. This pup, billed as Zipgun's first real 7" is one of my current faves. No frills punk rock (or "pug rock" or "pub rock") thrown right in yr fat little face. Neil Rogers may be a pussy, but he can fuckin' play the guitar. The riff on the a-side is a beast. "Together Dumb" is a great single. The flips no piece of slag, either. Adding to the fray are the fine gravel vocal spray from Rob [sic] Clarke. The thing shakes me, man.HypeExcept for their drinking habits and onstage fighting, I never saw much in the Derelicts, consequently this is yet another sloppy, testosterone type song by the drunk meastros...whereas Zipgun's "Put Me Away grapples onto the great balls out rock style that makes this band the anthemic song writers for the puke heavy, money begging homeless and snotty, underage punk rock wannabes alike. - FlaggertSpeed KillsDebut long-playing pipebomb from the Zipgun posse. If you don't already know, this is full-out blitz punk, w/ Neil Rogers' Gibson SG's three chords propelling this band from one blown power amp to the next. 14 tracks (if ya count the songless intro and outro.) in full force here. The best tracks remain the first three Zipgun songs I heard: "10," "Together Dumb," and "Cool In The Cell." Virgin ears must here the solo on "10;" the shit is so overdriven that the guitar threatens to jump outta the speaker and into yr hen house! Hot shit! Well anyway, the rest of the new material is cool enough, mostly raw and straight in yr face. It seems their sessions w/ Endino over at Word of Mouth yielded the best material; all the aforementioned tracks plus other winners like "Can't Think Straight." Neil does step on the wah for a few tastefully done blasts, and some of Rob's lyrics belie yr average "punk rock" blurting. I heard a couple of phrases like "make love all night," (mind you, he didn't say, "let's fuck all night, wowww!), and my fave phrase, "kiss yr eyebrows." He'd score some points w/ some women I know. When Zipgun hit their stride, you remember how fuckin' powerful a fuckin' rock band can fuckin' be.Maximum Rock'N'RollFor starters, this LP has a great looking cover, and I, one who appreciate it when a band pasy attention to its packaging. Musically, this is one of the better records to come down the pike in a while. Snarling bar punk with booze drenched vocals which remind me of the catchiness and "fuck you" attitude of THE PAGANS. Punk. (LD)RocketThis record is not the all out punk-pop assault I expected and is actually much more adventurous than I would have imagined. On songs like "Down in the Hole" guitarist Neil Rogers actually uses open chords, rather than just slashing away at barre chords, and there is a fair bit of wah-wah tastefully used throughout the record to give it that true Nothwest sound. Fellow Zip Gunner vocalist Robbe Clarke, bassist Mark Wooten and drummer Dan Cuneen sound equally comfortable playing the punk-outs as the pop ditties. The inclusion of the four tunes from their previous singles give those who've so far missed out a chance to catch up. Both "Together Dumb" and "Cool in the Cell," from their second single, are masterpieces in their gritty simplicity and catchiness. This record reveals a band, barely a year old yet, that has hit upon a chemistry that pumps out the pop but still makes it punk. - Adem TepedelenHypeOh, man. This vinyl biscuit melts inside of you like a suppository. A bunch of punk so smooth, Flaggert's mom likes it. Also included is a Bauhaus-type song that made me apply white make-up, and black lip stick. Fucking awesome. - MoePick of da month, boyee. And for damn good reason. Not only are these dweebs: 1. Responsilbe for the re-edification of the west coast as to how "punk" rock should be played; 2. A hysterical case study in the pros and cons of inner-band tension; and 3. Along with Gas Huffer the leaders of the Empty regime which will hopefully leave the Gits and the Fumes back at home to mind the children, but also a definitively outstanding rock band. Fusing testosterone-heavy, youthic energy and guitar based, riff-oriented rock in its most basic of levels. Zipgun have drunkenly stumbled onto a sound which is virtually impossible to ignore - as most will either eagerly relish or reluctantly enjoy it. And, unlike most of their live sets, this thing actually exceeds twenty minutes. - FlaggertIntensityZipgun are going to be what the Derelicts could've been, and that is to be the coolist band on the planet! Or least a cool punk band, and that's al that matters. The music is fast and restless but the first four songs make Robbe Clarke's voice sound weary. But the pace soon picks up, and anyone who ever doubted the guitar work of Neil Rogers is a buffoon. Former Obituaries drummer Dan Cunneen makes a fine drum set sound superriffic, but what makes 8 Track Player sound really special is that (with the exception fo the 4 1/2 minute "Feel it Wearin'") all of the songs are short and to the point, no delayin' and no playin' around because these guys know.GrindIt's nice to see a band come out of Seattle that isn't relying on the reputation of their location to sell records. Not since the likes of early Mudhoney have I head a Seattle band rock like this - for the love of their own sound rather, than the want of catching the wave. Having denied the pretensions of their worn-out scene, Zipgun rocks with their collective genitalla in full swing, like an uglier, smeller Pegboy. Fourteen tracks here with "Together Dumb", "Put Me Away" and "Cool in a [sic] Cell" raging over the rest. This guy Robbe Clarke's throat has more gravel than the road to Lake Roosevelt. The only strike I can find against this disc is the fact that I paly it too much and all these other reviews I still have left to do get pushed aside! (J. Koon)Alternative PressNo one did misanthropy like Seattel's Derelicts. Plopped in the thick of Hairwag Central like a ball of Hate from Uranus, the Derelicts separated themselves from their Sub-Popazoid peers on at least two formats: 1) Collective lack of hair; 2) Collective lack of Ritchie Blackmore guitar picks and Tony Iommi-brand prosthetic fingertips amongst their souvenirs. Instead, they played a jackboot brand of destructo rock which drove a size 18 Doc Martin up the hineys of rotting corpses whose tombstones read things like "Dead Boys," "Angry Samoans" (not dead, but may as well be), and "Motorhead" (ditto, judging by their latest work). Like any other guitar-smash merchants, the Derelicts were born to self-destruct. When they did SG enemy Neil Rogers decided to take the Derelicts brand of ne'er-do-wellism to the bank. Hence, Zipgun: A more relaxed variant of Derelicts-style jay-dee rock. Zipgun owes some obvious debts to Rogers' Derelicts past, but it's almost Tinker Toyish in comparison. The Derelicts made you wanna commit homicide. The only thing urges Zipgun stirs are to beat up your little sister. Not to slight Zipgun in any way: The only way you could level the watered-down charge at Zipgun'd be if they merely inspired the theft of sis' Raggedy Ann doll. Sure, in light of Derelicts' rape/pillage/burn band of punkery, Zipgun's mug-and-shoplift rock may seem a wee bit milquetoasty. Fuck that. Zipgun is pure pop for detention-hall lifers. Enjoy.OptionNot as brutally punk as most of this lable's entries, Zipgun opts for a garage-y growl that seems more Northeast than Northwest. Still, that's Jack Endino at the production helm for 12 of 14 tracks, so 8 Track Player is splashed with a raw, muddy palette that finds this quartet racing to the end of almost every song, with nods to the Ramones, the Lazy Cowgirls and a legion of three-chord rockers come and gone. "Feel It Wearin'" shows the band taking a fork in the musical road, stretching things out to 4:31 on an almost goth ride that at least shows a sense of dynamics. However, most of 8 Track Player runs on two-minutes-plus blasts of melodic punk energy that leave Zipgun rather mired in anonymity. - Mark WoodliefC.M.J.Zipgun's debut, 8 Track Player, is a little gritter, with more old-style punk and less ponderous hair-worship than most Jack Endino produced rock efforts. "Down In The Hole," "Put Me Away" and "The End" cross the burly, scabby-tattoo growl of fulltime rockers likethe Anti-Seen with the riffs and ragged harmonies of the Fluid and Mudhoney with a better-than-average knack for chomping down on the meat of its melodies and chords.GraffitiZipgun's debut is chock full of catchy, punky, sometimes grungy rock'n'roll. It contains 14 cuts that are mainly short bursts of power, with only two clocking in at more than three minutes. GMBluntOne of the better bands to preform at NXNW musicfest come forth with a barrage of different sessions put together to form one hell of a release. Unlike most of the neo-Seattle bands, these boys deliver an unpretentious, grinding, punk attack. Definite standouts are "The End," "Cool in the Cell," "10," "Chase the Ace," and the fillers between a couple of the songs. A must have. (Paul B.)?For some reason this gives me a greater feeling of grunginess than the single did, even though both tacks of the single are on this. Despite the title it has 14 tracks and I'd guess the most consistent comparison musically is the Fluid while vocally it's Mudhoney. The drumming is particularly solid and fun, though the guitars are a little on the murky side. Unlike a lot of bands with this kind of guitar and vocal sound, Zipgun keep the tempos up and there's tons of energy here. If this had come out 3 years ago I'd have drooled much more...it would have given a record like Clear Black Paper a decent run for the money.Panic ButtonDon't let the lame cover fool ya - this is hi-energy punk rock that delivers the goods from start to finish. So fucking good I'd pay for it. - Ben Weasel Bla bla bla
Sounds Like: Our influences
Record Label: eMpTy records
Type of Label: Indie

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Zipgun reunion

Come down and see Zipgun at geezerfest in late august, gonna be a unforgetable night, we are looking forward to being together with our band mates and old friends from that era! Hope to see you and ...
Posted by Zipgun on Thu, 28 Jun 2007 10:38:00 PST

MIA

Unfortunately, our esteemed colleage Neil Rogers has not turned up, and has fallen into the MIA catagory. We, Zipgun will offically have to postpone a reunion. No geezerfest show, sorry folks! RC5...
Posted by Zipgun on Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:13:00 PST

Zipgun Reunion

Hey Folks- Zipgun will be participating in GEEZERFEST 2007 in Georgetown, wa. on Aug 24th- 26th. Not sure of the actual date and time slot yet but will keep you posted on this site. We;ll cover both ...
Posted by Zipgun on Wed, 04 Jul 2007 08:08:00 PST