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†Diabolical HIMstress 616™

Our 666 has got a name We burn in its flames again and again For it is our Dark secret love

About Me


my name is AMBER. i JUST graduated from keene high!!! im SINGLE and NOT looking. im having SO much fun being single for a chance, doing WHAT i WANT, WHEN i WANT! yes, im BI and NO, im NOT confused!!! im more into GIRLS though, im SO picky about men. im really shy when you first meet me and i wont talk much, but after a bit i can be a wild, crazy and fun person and it might be hard to shut me up at times. i dont really trust anyone. i may act like i trust you, but more than likely i dont. im really easy to get along with and a really nice person but, i can be a HUGE bitch if you give me a reason to be. after LONG awaiting, im FINALLY a piercing apprentice!!! i work at lady luck studio, in keene. so pop in sometime and get a piercing!!! im there pretty much EVERY day. i have 22 piercings so far and LOVE each and every one of them, i have MANY more id like to get though. *see below and pics* i LOVE tattoos and LOVE getting them, i now have 5 and have MANY more to come! *see pics* its such a beautiful art in expressing yourself. music is my whole entire life, id be dead without it! im a concert freak, i love going to concerts theyre so much fun! i love singing at the top of my lungs with everyone else, its one of the best feelings in the world. i dont really lable myself, because im pretty much EVERY lable out there. i just like to say that im myself, i can be a girly girl at times but sometimes i can be just like a boy. DO NOT call me a poser cause im FAR from it! i am just MYSELF and if you dont like it then DONT TALK TO ME, its as easy as that! i practice wicca at times but that doesnt mean i worship the "devil". though i AM interested in satanism. i DO NOT beleave that there is a "god" NOR do i beleave that there is a "satin", "heaven" or "hell". when you die i just think you go in the ground and nothing else happens. if you beleave im wrong then fine i DONT care! if you want to know anything else, ASK!!!
*MY PIERCING MODS*
4 lobes in both ears (1st hole is a 2g, 2nd is an 8g, 3rd and 4th are 14g)
1 cartilage in both ears at 18g
navel at 14g
left nostril at 20g
two in my tongue at 14g
labret at 14g
left tragus at 18g
smiley at 18g
right rook at 16g
both nipples at 14g
septum at 16g
right eyebrow at 16g
*RETIRED PIERCINGS*
1 set of lobes at 18g
nape at 14g
inverse navel at 14g
*PIERCING TO DO LIST*
industrial *maybe*
left forward helix
right tragus
hips *if i ever get skinny enough*
snake bites *maybe or just left side*
rest of ears - many different kinds
hand web *between my thumb and index finger*
sternum *microdermals*
monroe *maybe*
bridge *maybe*
conch industrial *maybe*
another tongue ring
tongue web
clavicles *maybe* *microdermals*
horizontal tongue *maybe*
redo nape *microdermals this time*
I adopted a cute lil' April birthstone fetus from Fetusmart! Hooray fetus!

My Interests



I LOVE...
music
singing
bmezine.com = best body mod site EVER! tattoos and getting them
piercings and getitng them
dancing
going to concerts
hanging out with friends
animals
louis vuitton
dark poetry
writing poetry
hello kitty
happy bunny
taking pictures
chatting online
jack skeleton
ville vallo *singer of HIM*
bam margera *pro skaterboarder*
cristina scabbia *singer of lacuna coil*
cajun food
louisiana
blood
evil pictures
mikes hard lemonade
kaluah
irish car bombs
smirnoff
flavor flave, cause hes awsome
little john, cause hes funny
lightning
tornados
storms
sharpies
fairs
farms
stuffed animals
my lacuna coil necklace
the beach/ocean
my cell phone
unlimited texting
my ipod, cant live without it
kissing
hugging
cuddeling
blasting music so loud the car/house shakes
all types of art
boys and girls
playing the piano and guitar, though i suck!
rock band
being outside
being in the woods
tanning being alone
I HATE...
being alone
being single
cheaters
icp *they fucking SUCK*
being sick
liers
wannabes
myself *at times*
tomatoes
brittney spears
homophobics
not having my nape pierced anymore :'(
elmo, he scares the shit out of me
a lot of people
people who try to0 hard
being pressured
people who judge before they even know you
backstabers

WATCH ME GET MY NAPE PIERCED! (THANKS TO MY BROTHER FOR RECORDING THIS AS MY MOM WOOSED OUT!) also please go to my video section and leave comments about it there!*8/11/06*.. ..

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~QUIZZES~

You scored as Goth, Your A Goth!

Goth


75%

Skater


60%

Rocker, Mosher


55%

Trendy


40%

Emo


20%

Prepy


15%

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5%
What Group Are You? What Group Are You? Chav, Rocker, Skater, Emo, Goth, Trendy, Prepy Ect
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How you really say "I love you." by lenatheraven
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...believe in true love?
Your hands say With me, you'll never be lost.
Your eyes say I can't dream anyone more beautiful.
Your hugs say I promise I will try to keep you safe.
Your kisses say I am addicted to you.
Your body says I just want to hold you.
Your heart says I love you.
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You scored as Romantic Goth, You are a romantic goth, better known as a traditional goth. You are probably quickly identified as a goth by outsiders. Black lace, bats, and moonlit cemetaries are just a few of your favorite things. Click on my name to take my other tests if you liked this one.

Romantic Goth


75%

Perky Goff


71%

Old-school Goth


46%

Confused Outsider


38%

Understanding Outsider


38%

Ethereal Goth


33%

Cyber-goth


29%

Death Rocker


25%

Anything-Goes Goth


17%

Industrial/Rivet-Head


13%

Fantasy Goth


8%
What subcategory of Goth best fits you?
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Pagan Jewellery Quiz


Bat
You are the Bat, whispering through the darkest night, unseen by anyone, alone, mysterious and silent, in all your dark glory.
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What stereotype do you belong to? Your Result: Punk

listens to punk rock, has many piercings, wears a lot of black, hair is dyed unnatural colors, plays guitar, wears clothes that stand out, only likes colors combined with black


No stereotype
Emo
Jock
Preppy
Loner
geek/nerd
Gamer
What stereotype do you belong to?
You scored as Labret Piercing, You probably intimidate a whole lot of people without really meaning too. If people could just get past the many tattoos and piercings, I'm sure they'd love you. Or still be scared, who knows.

Labret Piercing


80%

Earlobe Piercing


70%

Belly Button Piercing


70%

Dirty Piercings


50%

Nipples


50%

Nose Piercing


50%

Tongue Piercing


50%

Cartilage Piercing


50%

Lip Piercing


40%
What Piercing Are You?
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What piercing are you?

Surface
the dark one... mysterious, you keep to yourself and dont mix well with others, but you dont want to either. you like to be alone and dont like to go out clubbing and having fun (thats not a bad thing - im like you!)

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What Pierce R U? (w/pics)


Corset
Creative Dark and Mysterious, u like pain u love it and u always make the craziest things even when ur not high.
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Wht piercing would you look SEXY with?


Belly Button
this piercing is the sexiest of all!!
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What vampire would you be?


Avengful Vampire of the City
You have been wronged so many ways. This as you see it, is your chance to set your anger free for once and all! Whomever dishonor or embarass you will have to pay for such a mistake with their life!
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You are a Punk
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What Kind of Kisser Are You?


Physical Kisser
Dude you're all hands. It's not just about their mouths for you, it's about their face and neck and ear and body and just about anything else you can touch. You take in the whole package when you make contact with someone. You're kissing sessions should be long and take place in comfortable environments where reclining can be involved.
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You scored as Satanism. Your beliefs most closely resemble those of Satanism! Before you scream, do a bit of research on it. To be a Satanist, you don't actually have to believe in Satan. Satanism generally focuses upon the spiritual advancement of the self, rather than upon submission to a deity or a set of moral codes. Do some research if you immediately think of the satanic cult stereotype. Your beliefs may also resemble those of earth-based religions such as paganism.

Satanism


100%

atheism


92%

agnosticism


79%

Buddhism


75%

Judaism


58%

Islam


58%

Paganism


42%

Hinduism


21%

Christianity


17%
Which religion is the right one for you? (new version)
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I'd like to meet:

ive already met some of the most amazing people that ill ever meet. but im always up for meeting new people. id like to meet people that are similar to me. i want to be able to chat with them and not be bored. ill talk about almost anything, just dont be a perv cause i dont talk about that kind of stuff and i will ignore you on the spot! i dont want any liers, tell me what you think. i dont need any negative shit back in my life. im done with people treating me like im shit and worthless! id like to meet a good girl/guy that is right for me, and that loves me for me. ive met a lot of my fave celebs but id still love to meet many more of them.
FAMOUS PEOPLE THAT I'VE MET AND WANT TO MEET
* means ive already met
lacuna coil**
motograter*
smile empty soul*
bam margera
HIM
christina aguilera
the guys from miami ink
kat von d
eminem
don vito
brent smith of shinedown*
little john
flavor flave
rob dyrdek
big black
carmen electra
paris hilton
nicole richie
ozzy osbourne
criss angel

LEAVE YOUR LOVE HERE...



Music:


* means ive seen in concert
~numbers~
2 pac
10 years
12 stones
30 seconds to mars
the 69 eyes
~A~
adema
afi
akon
a perfect circle*
atreyu
avenged sevenfold
~B~
bleeding through*
blink 182
bloodhound gang
breaking benjamin
bullet for my valentine
~C~
chevelle
cky
clutch
cold
cradle of filth
crossfade*
~D~
daughtry
default
disturbed
dogfight***
drowning pool
~E~
eighteen visions
eminem
evanescence
evans blue
~F~
falling up
fall out boy
flyleaf
fort minor
from autumn to ashes
~G~
godsmack
good charlotte
green day
~H~
hawthron hights
hellyeah
him**
hinder
hollywood undead
~I~
ill nino*
~K~
kill hannah
killswitch engage
korn
kottonmouth kings
~L~
lacuna coil**
limp bizkit
linkin park
~M~
matchbook romance
motograter*
mudvayne*
~N~
negative
nickelback
nirvana
no doubt
~O~
orgy
ozzy osbourne
~P~
panic! at the disco
papa roach
paramore
p.o.d.
~R~
ra*
the rasmus
rise against
~S~
saliva
seether
sevendust*
shinedown*
simple plan
skillet
slipknot
smile empty soul*
the sounds
staind
stone sour
submersed*
sum 41
system of a down
~T~
taproot
theroy of a deadman*
three days grace
tool
trapt
turbonegro
~U~
the used
~V~
velvet revolver
v shape mind*
~Y~
year of the rabbit*
every band thats on the viva la bands cd
and so many more i like just about everyone! i cant stand country!! i like some rap and pop but not much
LOTS OF ][=][-][-][Y][ STUFF
~I pledge alligance to the Heartagram and the many states of hysteria, and to the Love Metal for which it stands.. one nation under Ville... indivisble with headbanging and Jager for all.~ Which HIM Symbol Are You?
You are the FULL heartagram, the ultimate of HIM symbols. People worship you and all you stand for.
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Are you a H.I.M. fan?

Yes
Cool another H.I.M. fan! a little obsessed there? You're probably a little gothic spycho always representing His Infernal Majesty in some way or another... Good job!

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Love
Depressing
Sexy
Mystery
Funny
Drinking
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Which member of HIM is YOUR sweet 666?

Ville Valo!
Wow, arent you lucky! Ville himselfyyay!xoxox

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Pervy Ville
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wow!!..you're a stalker..=P...but I won't blame you he's sow cute..=D..wonder what you're favo song is from HIM...=P..rate and message
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Wow you really do know your stuff about Ville Valo..(he is soooooooo freaking hott and he is the hottest guy on the earth *drool*)
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WHat member of H.I.M. are you most like?

Ville Valo
You're just like Ville!! what can i say?? Ville Valo rules!!

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WHAT ROCK BAND R U?? (COOL PICS)

H.I.M
UR AN EMO ROCKER!! EMO ALL THE WAY! U LIKE SAD QUITE SONGS BUT THEY SEEM TO CHEER U UP!! HIM KICK ASS!!

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You scored as yes!. yay!! you know Ville!! i congradulate you on being educated on the hottest man alive!!!

yes!


100%

no no


0%
Ville Valo quiz....
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You're a total HIM fan!you adore HIM!
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What's your symbol?


Heartagram
Either you are a HIM fan, a mellow rocker, or you just didn't fit in with any other symbol. You are a Heartagram. Congrats.....Hey have you listened to Razorblade Romance recently? It's what I'm listening to right now....you should be too!
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When Never..mwahahaha
How Vampire style
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WOW! You know everything about Ville! Do you know him personally? No information gets past you.
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Which Member of H.I.M. Are You?

Ville Valo Dark and introspective, you are Ville Valo, the lead singer of HIM.

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Are you a Ville Valo fan

You are a huge Ville Valo fan maybe a little obsessed

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DO YOU KNOW VILLE VALO

You know Ville more than he does you are like me you know a lot about Ville

Myspace Quizzes

Ville Valo obsessed?

OMFG!!! your completely fuckin' obsessed YA DAMN STALKER!!! wow...that is fuckin' awesome....your as obsessed as I am....that fuckin' kicks ass, seriously....VILLE VALO ARMY 4-EVER!!!!!!!.......Great Job!!!!!!!

Personality-Emotion Quizzes

Are you a true Ville Valo fan?

WOoowww you really know Ville lol You know who Ville is and you're proud of it way to go!!!HIM is the best band ever!!!

Myspace Quizzes

how much of a ville valo fan r u

obsscesed wow i know just bout every thing bout ville valo u love his music and every thing he does wow done

Personality-Emotion Quizzes

Ville, Linde, Mige, Burton or Gaz???

Ville.... U are gothic, dark and mysterious. Ville is the man that created HIM, and he is dead gourges to.... But best of all, his voice is like an angel, even it is when he singing on cd or live or speaking...

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DO U REALLY KNO AS MUCH ABOUT VILLIE VALO THAT U THINK?

YES U KNO UR STUFF U LOVE -H-I-M-

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What Would Your 1st Date With Ville Valo Be Like? (the Happiest Ending)

AWESOME! You guys should end up living very happily together after a few more dates like this! You'll totally have Jonna beaten!

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How would you handle a date with Ville Valo?

Awesomly!!!!!! Yall are ment to be together.You would do anything for him!

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Movies:

2 fast 2 furious
50 first dates
8 mile
the amityville horror
american pie - all of them
american psycho - 2
a walk to remember
bad santa
barber shop - 1 and 2
barn yard
benchwarmers
big daddy
blue crush
bride of chucky
but im a cheerleader
butterfly effect - both
cars
corpse bride
coyote ugly
cky - all of them
cluless
crash
the day after tomorrow
the dukes of hazzard
edward scissor hands
elf
emploee of the month
eurotrip
fantastic four
the fast and the furious
the fast and the furious: tokyo drift
fever pitch
final destination - all of them
freddy got fingered
freddy vs. jason
5ive girls
get rich or die tryin
ghost ship
gridiron gang
haggard
harold and kumar go to white castle
the hot chick
house of 1000 corpses
jackass the movie
jackass number 2
jackass 2.5
jawbreaker
jeepers creepers 2
just married
kids in america
knocked up
legally blonde - 1 and 2
longest yard
loving annabelle
the lost boys
malibu's most wanted
mean girls
meet the parents
meet the fockers
monster in-law
mr.deeds
the nightmare before christmas
not another teen movie
over the hedge
the parent trap
poseidon
queen of the dammened
raise your voice
tattoo, a love story
the texas chainsaw massacre
the ring - both
the ringer
thirteen
thir13en ghosts
titanic
the seed of chucky
scary movie - all of them
the school of rock
scream - all of them
shallow hal
shaun of the dead
the simpsons movie
south park bigger, longer and uncut
speak
stick it
stewie, the untold story
sugar and spice
supercross
sweet home alabama
swimfan
van wilder - most of them
white chicks
wrong turn
and many many more

Television:

americas next top model
a shot at love
bams unholy union
crank yankers
degrassi
dr 90210
the dudesons
family guy
the girls next door
invader zim
jackass
keeping up with the kardashians
king of the hill
la ink
miami ink
rob and big
scarred
the simpsons
south park
viva la bam
wild boys

Books:

it takes a lot for me to get into a book but some good books ive read are...
the color purple
crank
crosses
cut
gingerbread
the glass castle
perfect
the satanic notebook
shattering glass
sold
speak
vampires
when jeff comes home
ANYTHING on wicca

Heroes:

CRISTINA SCABBIA
cristina scabbia is the only female in an all male metal band called lacuna coil. i fell in love with her voice the first time i heard it about 5 years ago. then when i met her in person in 2003 it was the best feeling ever and i was nervous as hell. but she is such a sweetheart, i love her so damn much! she has such an amazing voice, its so beautiful and powerful. i would love to be just like her.
JESS O.
my piercer and tattooist, jess o. she is such an amazing artist, both in tattooing and piercing. all of my piercings have come out so perfect because of her. she has done most of mine but most importantly she did my first REAL piercing. she also did my first tattoo and i LOVE it!!!! she is the ONLY one ill let tattoo me. and shes pretty much the only person ill let pierce me now. check her out, she used to work at twilight tattoo here in keene. but has left that and has her OWN shop called lady luck studios. and i now apprentice there under her!!!
JENN R.
my bff jenn r. and me have been friends for over 3 year. i can never get bored of her. i hate talking on the phone but her and me can be on the phone together for hours! we are so much a like, she is more like my long lost sister than anything. we never ever fight, i love her so damn much! i will always have her back no matter what, and shell always have mine!
other heros:
my mom, for always wanting to help though i never let her. for always taking me places when she dosent have to and for doing anything that she dosent have to, but does anyways. i know i should be a better daughter but she still loves me, no matter what.
my dad, for always being there for me when i need someone or just need to let loose and let everything out. he takes me to so many paces, though he doesnt have to. he is one of my best friends, im such a daddys girl. i dont know what id do without my dad.
my brother chris, for always talking to me, being there when i need someone and taking me to so many places when i know he doesnt have to. we may fight but its never for long. brothers and sisters never really have a good relationship but we are so close.
kat von d, all i can say is amazing. shes one of the best tattooist out there. most of you know her from miami ink, but now get to know her from la ink. i look up to kat so much, for leaving miami ink and opening up her own shop in her love of la, cali. she does some of the best work out there, in a male dominated career. she is such a strong woman.
christina aguilera, yeah weired huh? this "goth" chick having this "slutty" pop singer as her hero. but i love her, ever sense the day she came out. she has such a powerful and amazing voice. she has had a really bad past and is still a very strong woman. we have a pretty similer past and she gives me a lot of strength and hope.
music, probly my BIGGEST hero. i know without music i wouldent be here at all or the person i am. id probly be dead if it wasent for music. it can always help me out no matter what my problem is, happy or sad. music does so much for me, it can change my mood in a second.
many of my friends who i have left out, you all know who you are. without them i doubt id be who i am today. i thank them in so many ways. for always being there, wether it was just someone to talk to or if i ever needed a shoulder to cry on, you guys where always there for me. through think and thin. thank you so much!

My Blog

so ive decided

that i dont want to touch up my foot anymore. 1 because its going to be hard to get in the right placement to do it and 2 i dont want to ruin jess' art work. so im just going to have her touch it up f...
Posted by †Diabolical HIMstress 616™ on Thu, 26 Jun 2008 05:25:00 PST

things going on *updated*

may 17 - prom (NOT GOING!!! its such a waste of money!!! plus im keeping the shop open BY MYSELF!!!)may 20 and 21 - weeeee (get to go to school 3 hours late!!!)may 21 - special day (phenomen...
Posted by †Diabolical HIMstress 616™ on Mon, 12 May 2008 03:07:00 PST

you know your from keene, nh when...

It takes you seven minutes or less to get anywhere. From anywhere.There are five elementary schools and one high school.Everyone knows everyone and everything about everyone.People don't say "hi" to y...
Posted by †Diabolical HIMstress 616™ on Sat, 26 Apr 2008 07:47:00 PST

INK NOT MINK

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Posted by †Diabolical HIMstress 616™ on Sun, 27 Jan 2008 01:13:00 PST

bleeding through/HIM show *10/21/07*

WAS FUCKING AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we got their an hour before the doors opened, and so many people were already there. we hung out at the end, by all of HIM's equipment and their tour bus. th...
Posted by †Diabolical HIMstress 616™ on Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:36:00 PST

a true HIM fan

For anyone who stuck by HIM even when they were called emo for it.For anyone who loves Ville no matter what length his hair was.For anyone who has ever fantasied about playing with Linde's hair.For an...
Posted by †Diabolical HIMstress 616™ on Tue, 04 Sep 2007 01:22:00 PST

for my gramma bleau

i remember when i was youngerthose days weed spen together after i got home from schoolyou would always entertain meplay games, teach me how to cookwe always had so much funid always cheat during the ...
Posted by †Diabolical HIMstress 616™ on Tue, 09 Jan 2007 01:08:00 PST

tomorrow is almost here! less then 24 hours and i see ][=][--][--][\/][!!!

oh yes, tomorrow is almost here. i will going to atlantic city, nj to see HIM in concert! skindred and another band will be opening for them. i have already seen skindred in concert befor at locobazoo...
Posted by †Diabolical HIMstress 616™ on Sat, 19 Nov 2005 07:17:00 PST

my nape expieriance

My nape love started when I went to a Mudvayne concert a few years ago. The show had not yet started so everyone was just walking around the club where it was held, and that's when I saw her. This gir...
Posted by †Diabolical HIMstress 616™ on Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:21:00 PST

][=][--][--][\/][ CONCERT!!!! 11/19/05

last weekend was the best! they jurney down to jersey was so much fun. we did end up getting lost in new york, but made it to jersey buy our dead line. thats what happens when your driving 95 all the ...
Posted by †Diabolical HIMstress 616™ on Tue, 22 Nov 2005 12:25:00 PST