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About Me

How it all began:
Brothers Jared and Shannon Leto had always had an intrest in art and music. Shannon says he got his first actual set of drums at age 8 however he had always found a way to convay his sound. He later joined a comunity jazz band. Once older Jared and Shannon came together to create a band punk band called The Noise Fucks.
In 1998 the brothers were singed to Virgin Records. They took 4 years to create their self titled debut preduced by music giant Bob Ezrin. Jared played gutair, piano and sang. Shannon played the drums and helped with what he could. They recruted Kevin Drake on gutair, Solon Bixler on gutair, and Matt Wachter on Bass. They toured under different names and if any show were to be marketed using Jared's name they would back out.
After creating a strong backing and touring for a while Solon and Kevin backed out and they were replaced by a fan. Tomislav "Tomo" Milicevic younger brother to Ivana Milicevic is a classically trained violinist and a certified pastry chef.
Now going into the studio with 2 new people they created a new sound on their second record entitled A Beautiful Lie produced by Josh Abraham. They recorded it in several different countries and it was realsed in 2005. After many years of touring Matt found it straning on his new marrage so he droped out to be in a band that could better understand his need to be with his family, so he joined Angels and Airwaves.
Bassist Tim Kelleher stepped in and has been touring with 30 since may 2007 however there has been no comformation if Tim is in. Many fans were waiting for the music video for A Beautiful Lie to see who will be the permanent replacement. However there was no basist featured in the video. I guess we will just have to wait and see.
What's in a name?
Contrary to popular belief 30 Seconds to Mars has nothing to do with space. The band likes to create art in which all can relate and interpet in their own way so they keep pretty much everything a secret.
As we all know Jared has a slight obsession with Greek and Roman Mythology, Mars was the Roman god of war, the son of Juno and Jupiter, but that has nothing really to do with the band.
The Leto Brothers have eluted to a passage Jared had found while researching said mythology which was a metephor in which 30 Seconds to Mars was born.
What do the The Symbols mean?
Like I said the band likes it when people interpet in their art in their own way. This is all based on a general echelon understanding of what we think they might mean.
The glyphics stand for the bands name.
The first symbol is two intertwined threes representing 30.
The second symbol is a clock with two hands spining, the second hand on a clock represents SECONDS.
The third symbol is three vertical lines, but if you look in between them you get the roman numeral two or TO.
The last symbol represents a planet with its two moons, what planet has two moons? MARS, Phobos and Deimos.
I've seen these other symbols around
What do they mean?
The first symbol is a W or a sideways 3 which represents 30
The second symbol is an hourglass on it's side which represents SECONDS
The third symbol is made up of two semi circles representing the word TO
In the last symbol there is an E or a sideways M and the middle line is extended on both sides which represents MARS it's 2 moons
What's the deal with the Phoenix?
The band's phoenix logo (which the band named "Mithra") bears the phrase "Provehito in Altum", the band's motto. The logo was primarily used for promotion of the band's debut album, where as for A Beautiful Lie, the new Trinity logo was created consisting of three skulls, along with the band's name and motto. It also symbolizes rebirth, a common theme in 30stm.
What does the phrase 'Provehito In Altum' mean?
Roughly translated from Latin, this means "Launch forth into the deep". It is the band's motto.
What does 'Conare me sistere' mean?
Try and stop me.
A few Echelon like to use it as their motto, I have yet to hear of the band using it.
What's with the Arrow?
The arrow or Tyre, is the visual representation for "Provehito in Altum." The progressive leap. "Launch forth into the unknown." It means: Honor, justice, leadership and authority. Knowing where one's true strengths lie. Willingness to self-sacrifice. Victory and success in any competition or in legal matters.
What's with the X?
The X hieroglyph is a numerical symbol for multiplication ('coming together'), in the spatial sense it symbolizes division ('unifying under one banner').
"Unity Divides"
What does the phrase 'Per Aspera Et Astra' mean?
To the stars through difficulties, Tomo has it tattooed on his arm along with the 30 symbols.
What is the Echelon?
Echelon is a song from 30 Seconds to Mars' self titled debut that was also featured on the soundtrack for the movie 'The Core'.
The echelon is also a group of devoted 30 Seconds to Mars fans who are sometimes referred to as the Mars Army.
Our mission is to spread the word about the band while developing and maintaining a strong community. The band thinks of us as a sort of dysfunctional family. They give us gifts and we do the same back weither it may be in the literal since or through our support and promotion.
What does Subsisto procul nusquam mean?
It means Stop At Nothing
It is featured on Abeautifullie.org
What is The Argus Apocraphex?
Many different people have different interpatations on this subject but This is what I have come to believe it means.
It is a phrase found in the bucklet in both cds which is followed by "To the Warriors and the Creepers of the Gate - We Await...Provehito in Altum".
Jared and Shannon have eluted to it being from an old manuscript rummered to be written by a Harvard Professor possibly the same one they found 30 seconds to mars in.
Argo is said to be a constellation located around the milky way. Apocraphex is a Greek word for "hidden" or "kept secret". I know you are wondering why a constellation needs to be kept secret? Well simply, it doesn't exist anymore. It has been broken up 4 different smaller constellations.
So in the spirt of 30 it can be explained as:
question the universe, "find the Argus Apocraphex" and find yourself.
You mentioned that the song 'Echelon' was in the movie 'The Core' have any other songs been featured in anything?
Why yes and here is the list:
"Echelon" was in the 2003 movie 'The Core'
"Battle of One" was featured on the video game Madden NFL 07
"Attack" was featured the 2006 video game ATV Offroad Fury 4
"A Beautiful Lie" was featured on a Commercial for Without a Trace in 2007
"The Kill" was featured in the 2007 movie 'The Invisible'
"From Yesterday" was featured on a Commercial for the TV show 'New Amsterdam' in 2007
"The Kill" was featured on a episode of 'Without a Trace' in 2007
"The Kill" was featured on an episode of 'Hollyoaks' in 2007
"The Kill" was featured on the video gae Rock Band in 2007
"Oblivian" is featured on my Ipod
"Attack" was also featured on Rock Band in 2007
"From Yesterday" was used on one of the channel 8 news commercials in rochester in 2008
"From Yesterday" was featured on Commercials for the TV show 'New Amsterdam' in 2008
"The Kill" is featured in the x-box game Guitar Hero World Tour 2008
"A Beautiful Lie" was Featured in a Latitudes Mountain Bike Video in 2008
Here is a List of the songs 30stm decided to revamp & their old names:
Praying for a riot = 7 corners
Jupiter = Fallen
The Reck... = Oblivion
Hero = Year Zero
End of the beginning= used to be called absolution and had a few different lyrics
Also some times you make something and wish you could go back & change it
or even take it back
Here is a list of songs you can't buy:
Phase 1 fortification = Bonus track only on the U.K. single for Capricorn.
Valhalla = Unreleased track. Early 1998 Demo.
Anarchy in Tokyo = Bonus
track on the Japanese version of the self titled album.
Revolution = Unreleased track early demo
Occams razor = unreleased track early demo
What's the deal with the 'Lazy Space Aliens'?
It's @ about 2:09 & it's part of the story
Jared is:
If you have any questions don't heistate to ask
Echelon Love
NYE
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My Interests

Music:

Member Since: 17/01/2008
Band Website: http://www.30secondstomars.com/
Band Members:
Jared Leto - vocals, rhythm guitar, bass, keys

Shannon Leto - drums

Tomislav Milicevic aka Tomo - lead guitar, keyboard

Tim Kelleher - temp bassist & keys 2007-2009

Matt Wachter Former Bassist 2002-2007

Kevin Drake Former Guitarist 2002-2005

Solon Bixler Former Guitarist 2002-2005
Influences: Björk, Carpark North, A-Ha, Royksopp, Michael Jackson, Unkle, Pink Floyd, Menudo, Aphex Twin, The Beatles, Depeche Mode, Radiohead, Men at Work, Zeppelin, Metalicia, The Police, The Who, Guns and Roses, Nine Inch Nails (A few were thrown in for fun)
Sounds Like: Here is a link to a youtube playlist that has all the MarsTV webisodes, 30stm music videos, and making ofs:

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7AA9B6DC8815B6A3

How to create the 30stm symbols:

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How to figure out your Echelon Number:

For example purposes I made up this date 26 December 2309 @ 9:03 am
First four: Month and day you register

1226

Next Three: Last 3 digits of the year you registered.

309

Last 4: Time you registered, 24-hour clock [You can find your join time -- My controls -- Your account summary.]

0903

Now stick a hyphen between each, and you're good to go.

1226-309-0903

I made up the time and date and if you can figure out why I used these numbers your awesome!
thanks Katie[Echelon] for sending this to me

Who is Bartholomew Cubbins?
Bartholomew Cubbins is an Albino Dutch artist who is best known for his genious directorial skills used on such 30 Seconds to Mars music videos as The Kill and From Yesterday. When he is not working he goes off into the moutains to live a life of solitude and artistic freedom.

Or that is what they want to you think, no one outside of the band's inner circle has seen Bartholomew and it is well known that Jared at least co-directs the videos. Many news outlets believe it is a kind of inside joke among the band due to the fact that Bartholomew Cubbins happens to be the name of a Dr. Seuss character.

Who directed A Beautiful Lie?
The new is "director" Angakok Panipaq
Panipaq is the name of a little boy in a childrens book from Greenland.
He's an Angakok meaning a "Shaman"
and of corse there was a special thanks to good old Barty

While watching the making of the kill I think I figured out why Jared goes by different names while directing

At the end of the making it says if anyone knows the where abouts of Bartholomew Cubbins please contact us @ 30secondstomars.com

well maybe they are doing this because Jared is still looking for himself, to see where he fits creatively. He the director of 3 music videos thus far, He was a producer of Sol Goode, He has been an actor for years, He went to school to be an artist, He did almost everything short of drums and only co-produced S/T, He edits the music videos and edited the old mars tv episodes and so on, I think by taking on this fake persona and asking for help looking for said person he is saying that he doesn't quite know what he wants, I mean their sound and his look are constianly changing

I think he is just trying to tells us that they will always change and grow in his very own and artistic/cryptic Leto style. Also you should not just settle. You should go out and find yourself not matter how long it takes nor how many endevors you must take on. "Find the Argus Apocraphex"

What's the deal with 6277?

Well if you look on you phone you can see that it spells out MARS.
As in 30 Seconds to...
The guys have used it as the room number in the kill and the amount of time that they are running late by in From Yesterday.

Random stuff in their music videos:

Ivana, Tomo's sister is in Edge of the earth @ 4:21

In From yesterday at around 2:14

into the first half

you can see an old copy of The 500 hats of Bartholomew Cubbins

For a split second @ 4:01

into the second half of From yesterday

you can see this image:

Then of cousre the mention of 6277

In The Kill is the mention of 6277

In A Beautiful Lie right after Tomo is mid air

Some colors flash by

This is what it says:

"we are all guilty

No Matter what make a difference

turn off your tv go outside and breathe"

sematary crosses

& a drop of blood hitting the ice

Also at the end there is a message in mirror writting

The message reads:

"Turn this off and go outside and breathe

Love thirty Seconds to Mars"

For the hidden messages found in the video for Attack

check out my photo ablum entitled "Attack"

Occam's Razor

is a simple explanation in Philosophy that would be simplistic if it failed to capture all the essential and relevant parts

The Sun is 93 Million Miles away from earth

Record Label: Unknown Major
Type of Label: Major

My Blog

Global Pictures

30 posted this on their main page Thank you to everyone who attended The Global Summit. Weve read the stories, seen the pictures and wish we could have been there with you guys. We look forward to he...
Posted by on Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:43:00 GMT

Echelon Float Like Butterflies & Sting like Bees

Buzz On The Boards Friday, June 26, 2009 THE HIVEFirst and foremost, MANY thanks to all who made it out to The GlobalSummit this weekend. Weve read the stories, seen the pictures andwish we could ha...
Posted by on Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:07:00 GMT

Cover It Up

30 has been lovin' up all the youtube covers out there and wrote this blog about:Thursday, June 25, 2009 30 Seconds to Mars Cover VideosWe are so impressed by all the cover videos we have seen. Previo...
Posted by on Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:57:00 GMT

I wonder If Matty Is a Good Drummer

The link leads to:See what Shannon thinks, watch from 1:42 to 2:20The Making Of From Yesterday Posted on to Youtube by frakissInfo:il backstage del video from yesterdayI own nothing
Posted by on Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:40:00 GMT

SDC Tweets The NEWS

The link leads to therockradio.com were they posted this story:Thursday, June 25, 2009Rock drummers unite for projectVelvet Revolver's Matt Sorum, Motley Crue's Tommy Lee and 30 Seconds To Mars' Shann...
Posted by on Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:36:00 GMT

You Asked 30 Answered

Are either Pythagoras or Artemis being used in the recording of the new album? If so, which one?Of course! Both guitars have been used and will continue to be used.When will the UK store have more mer...
Posted by on Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:06:00 GMT

The Brother's Leto mentioned on Hot Bike

Protect your HeadFulmer 3/4 helmetsPosted Today 09:35 AM by eric.ellis  Filed under: Harley Davidson Parts So we know that Cavemen already wear the V2 old skool open face helmet from Fulmer in stars a...
Posted by on Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:59:00 GMT

RockOne Scans & Translation

Letophrenics Anonymous © posted This blog Yesterday @ 4:57pm with a big thanks to WEBTEAM30stm ª ø lll ·o. for blogging thisScans & translation of the French 'RockOne' articleTRANSLATION : Sometimes a...
Posted by on Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:53:00 GMT

Tomo signed what will you do?

Appeal to the UN on the Situation in IranH.E. Mr. Martin Ihoeghian UhomoibhiPresident of the United Nations Human Rights Councilcc: Members of the Human Rights CouncilSub: Appeal for a Special Session...
Posted by on Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:50:00 GMT

Matty!

Matt on bass for SDCPre-Production Day 1 @ Atrium Studio June 2009 I own nothing
Posted by on Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:43:00 GMT